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Post by Lucian on Sept 16, 2008 4:51:43 GMT -5
Ok... well since there isnt really an area to b*tch about something, i thought this was a good a place as any
ok, now i will start off by saying i at making this post to explain my overwhelming distaste/resentment about the exsistance of an ability on this site
and would like to state i feel strongly enough/am willing to fight tooth and nail with any admin/mod/member/guest/or any other object/person/deity about how this ability shouldnt be allowed on the site (or any ability like it)
i had a long convo with the maker of this ability before it was ok'ed and i explained to them at the time my disliking of this ability and a handful of reasons why, and once again had a convo with another member about it concerning them having it on their keyblade as well.
My first and most obvious point of my arguement is that there shouldnt be any insta-anything, no insta kill or insta bring back to life. Both because that is way too much power to let any one char have, and double for multiple people having either of them. They are both game turning abilities and thus shouldnt be allowed.... if any one char ends up turning the entire game in a direction due to their RPing then congrats to them and tell me were they are so i can pat them on the back, cause that would be just damn good RPing... but this is just a really cheap way of doing it. there is too much permanency in both of the powers.....
i have other points i can argue and bring up, but i am hoping that this one should be anough to make my point... if not then i will bring up my other points.
i would like to hear how other people and the staff feel about this, so hope and expect some respones to this post....
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Post by Artemis on Sept 16, 2008 10:28:24 GMT -5
(I suggest you put the ability into
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Post by Lucian on Sept 16, 2008 12:08:16 GMT -5
hell.... i dont even request the weapons themselves be deleted, just the ability and a new one be made to replace it, on both keyblades that have it....
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Riku
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Post by Riku on Sept 16, 2008 13:00:56 GMT -5
I am one of the people who happens to have this ability on my weapon.
I only picked this abilty up cause i wanted to have a Light based ability to counter balance my one Darkness ablitly on my Keyblade.
However.... i also concur that this ability is too strong and shouldnt be allowed on the site, and in the case that this ability was taken away would be gald to make a new one to replace it on my keyblade. I just wanted to comment on this and also explain that i also agree that this abiltiy is too much and should not be alllowed.
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The Dash
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Post by The Dash on Sept 16, 2008 14:27:46 GMT -5
If anyone wishes to make a replacement, one much better then this one, then be my guest. As of right now, that was the ability accepted. And it isnt an insta thing. If the ability doesnt get completed, then both the user, and the one getting resurrected would be dead.
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Riku
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Post by Riku on Sept 16, 2008 15:50:16 GMT -5
then what would stop me from takeing the body from any kinda fight or way to die and goning somewere where no one is via realm travel or any othere power to move place to place and then bringing them back to life that way. what would stop me then or how would that be fair ?
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The Dash
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Post by The Dash on Sept 16, 2008 15:56:05 GMT -5
I already said what could be done. If you have a problem with the ability, then make a new one. There isnt much else that can be said. I didnt make the ability, so it doesnt particularly pertain to me.
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Post by Lucian on Sept 17, 2008 1:10:52 GMT -5
ok, if you want a power to replace it, then here is my submission for a power to replace it....
Name of Ability: Reverse Drain Type of Ability: Good, Support Rank: "A" Rank Description: This ability draws life from the user to give it to another target. The target must still be alive, they can be beaten to within an inch of their life, or even dying, but once the target is fully dead, this ability will no longer have an effect. The user of this power need only lay the tip of their Hand (In the case of a character having this ability instead of it being on a keyblade)/Keyblade on the chest of the target and a bright white flash of light will happen and the target is healed. The user draws life force from them selves and gives it to the target, the target regains about 25% of their health and is free to get up and go about their normal actions as if they were 100%, the post after this power is used. However, the user is drained immensely of strength. The use of this power causes the user is drained to the point of being unable to stand straight and staggering for any other actions taken after the power is used on the same post and for the whole following next post. The following post(2nd) the user can begin resuming normal activities as if they were just a little tired, not quite 100%, and by the next post(3rd) the user is back to normal. The user of this ability may do other actions before and/or after the use of this power in the post, cause this power is instant, unlike the spell Cure, or any of it's better versions. Drawback: The use of this power causes the user is drained to the point of being unable to stand straight and satggering for any other actions taken after the power is used on the same post and for the whole following next post. The following post(2nd) the user can begin resuming normal activities as if they were just a little tired, not quite 100%, and by the next post(3rd) the user is back to normal. The user becomes open for an attack on the post in which the power is used and the following post where the user is drained and staggering(and in the case of using a shield while using this power, the 2nd post as well). The user may put a shield around themself before using it to protect themselves while using this; however, one more post will be added of the user at a stagger/unable to stand point of drained, totaling 2 post of being totally drained (unable to stand/staggering), 1 post of not quite being 100%, and the 4th post being with the user back to 100%. The reason behind this being that holding any kind of shield up will drain the user of more power while using a power that already drains them of immense power. Limit: Must be good or neutral. If you’re able to wield a keyblade, it must be shadow or life. 1 time per thread.
i am expecting the staff to read this over and let me know what they think... and i would also like to hear what anyone else willing to comment on this thread thinks as well...
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destroyer
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Post by destroyer on Sept 17, 2008 17:21:23 GMT -5
Dude, one time per thread is way too often, I believe the ability should still be only allowed once per world, meaning that a person is only able to use it what, 13 times? And then after that the ability is gone forever from the person.
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Post by Lucian on Sept 17, 2008 17:32:14 GMT -5
well, this is why i was ok with once per thread... is cause it doesnt resurrect a person, i was having an issue cause it brought someone back to life, just like i would have an issue if so ability straight out killed a char....
all it is, is a really strong heal spell, i say once per thread isnt bad...
but i am waiting to see if some staff puts there 2 cents in about it.
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destroyer
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Post by destroyer on Sept 17, 2008 18:16:14 GMT -5
I think that it was fine with only being able to used once per world that way it wouldn't be used to resurrect all the time and have someone live forever. I think that if we don't keep it the same and change it, it should still be used once per world.
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Riku
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Post by Riku on Sept 17, 2008 18:25:50 GMT -5
well i think once per thread is just fine but once per world is to much and as one of the people that have the old ability i believe this is perfect to replace iti i get it from dash to replace it i will in a second
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Post by Lucian on Sept 25, 2008 12:47:37 GMT -5
hello people? i have not hard anything back really about the replacement power, i would like other staff to get on and comment and/or give their ok about this replacement power......
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Roxas
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Post by Roxas on Sept 25, 2008 18:25:42 GMT -5
First thoughts: Naruto Shippuuden where the old lady gives her life to Gaara after he's dead and brings him back to life.
Second Thoughts: Alright so here's something we should think about when talking about a life giving technique. Something like "dying" and you give them part of your life, shouldn't really be a good thing. Seeing as they are dying of something, you're only prolonging their death. Saying, (Man was stabbed clean through the intestines and is bleeding out. You use the tech on him. He gets more life but still ends up bleeding out and you waste part of your own life.) So I would say remove the part about "Dying" because if someone is dying all you would be doing is prolonging the inevitable.
Third Thoughts: Keyblade or Hand... Ok so we need to choose because first off they are very different things and people are very different comparing the Keyblade Wielders and regular fighters. If a Keyblade has to be Shadow or Life, why Shadow? Second, if they are a Keyblade Wielder and don't have that specific kind of Keyblade they could just use their hands no?
Forth Thoughts: Why is this being handled in a Complaint thread? I vouch we move this to Customs where it belongs.
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Post by Lucian on Sept 25, 2008 20:15:55 GMT -5
1st: ...lol... not sure what to say about your first point, lol. yes this power exsist many times over in anime, movies, and comics, however as a power on an RP forum, i think it is way too much, and way too powerful of an ability. 2nd: well the whole dying thing thing is up to staff in any thread/post, so if the staff member makes a call then the players on that thread must abide by that call whether the staff decides if the wound would work like that or not. Why Shadow? cause Shadow is the alignment of a keyblade that deals with life and death, so this power could be the life power (exaple being the current Way of The Dawn where the keyblade has both a darkness (hurting ability) and a light (life ability) 3rd: I edited the post to be more detailed about the whole hand/keyblade thing.. now i say that if a player has the ability as a character ability and not on a keyblade. However..... i would like to point out that this ability should be kept tabs on... ie... only three people people/keyblades (or combinatio of the two) can have this ablity at a time. 4th: that is a very valid point there Roxas, lol. the reason why it is here is cause this was under the suggestion area at first cause there was no place for complaints, and then dash made a complaints area cause of this thread, and Dash asked for a replacement power so i posted it on here since it is where i started the b*tching about the original reverse drain power... i will leave it up to the other staff as to whether it gets moved over yet... i was hoping for the power to be ok'ed or not and then move it over in a thread made for this power.
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Matt (Slizard)
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Post by Matt (Slizard) on Dec 19, 2008 2:55:29 GMT -5
First thoughts: Naruto Shippuuden where the old lady gives her life to Gaara after he's dead and brings him back to life. Second Thoughts: Alright so here's something we should think about when talking about a life giving technique. Something like "dying" and you give them part of your life, shouldn't really be a good thing. Seeing as they are dying of something, you're only prolonging their death. Saying, (Man was stabbed clean through the intestines and is bleeding out. You use the tech on him. He gets more life but still ends up bleeding out and you waste part of your own life.) So I would say remove the part about "Dying" because if someone is dying all you would be doing is prolonging the inevitable. Third Thoughts: Keyblade or Hand... Ok so we need to choose because first off they are very different things and people are very different comparing the Keyblade Wielders and regular fighters. If a Keyblade has to be Shadow or Life, why Shadow? Second, if they are a Keyblade Wielder and don't have that specific kind of Keyblade they could just use their hands no? Forth Thoughts: Why is this being handled in a Complaint thread? I vouch we move this to Customs where it belongs. I understand what your trying to say Like but The original ability Is FAR FAR too powerful not even like a GOD should have that ability Im agreed with the replacement with 1 per thread 1 per world is far too Harsh its just a strong Healing spell
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